so our congregation is full of hardliner elders, 3 of them, who are not gentle, kind or loving.. people have either moved away or quit trying because one elder inparticular was going to drive them crazy with all his rules and nit picking and being righteous over much.
(and he is pissed that he hasn't been accepted to the school.
hmmm, i wonder why!).
I hope he gets removed too. He sounds too good a man to be an elduh. Let the others bend over backwards cutting through boring, unnecessary workloads-heaped upon them so that they don't have time to stop and think of how much of their lives they are wasting for a pointless cult.
The real test of his decentness will be whether or not he shuns his daughter.
monday, october 10. renounce unrighteousness.—2 tim.
2:19.. god’s word gives specific advice concerning the types of unrighteousness that christians must renounce or reject.
for instance, in the immediate context of 2 timothy 2:19, we find that paul tells timothy “not to fight about words” and to “reject empty speeches.” (2 tim.
Amazing how they cultify\twist this text to yet again focus the drones on the massive problem they have with apostates. A problem so great in 1st century Christianity that it (apostasy)is mentioned a whole 2 times in the entire Christian Greek scriptures.
my husband said he would be gone for the day.
the circuit overseer is at their cong and he trying to get brownie points.
i was just chilling watching tv with a cuppa, when i heard a car outside.
Bit of a shock to the system i'd imagine. You should get your own back by bringing home some hardcore apostates lol.
i think all of us on this forum would like to welcome all the newbies that have joined in the last six months or so ,if i`m not mistaken there seems to be an influx lately.. elders , ms ,and sisters.
speak up and make a comment , are you happy you came here ?.
we`d love to here from you.. smiddy.
18 months of faithful service from me brother. I feel my knowledge of the truth about the truth is growing and growing. And of course I'm sharing what I'm learning with still in relatives bit by bit- you can't flood them. Seriously, good things have happened to us since leaving the borg, we're living for ourselves and not the WT corp, we've met some nice new friends and the stress and difficulties associated with being part of a control group are off our backs. In short, its great to be free!
hi, my name is jason.
i was born in 1987 in nsw, australia into a jehovahs witness household (my parents were baptised mere months before i was born) with 2 older siblings (brother and sister) and in time a younger brother.
i had a pretty happy childhood, we moved to north brisbane by the time i was 5 years old.
Gooday Jason
Welcome to the forum mate!! Wish I was as smart as you at 13!
Where's part 2 already??
i asked an old jw friend of mine why so many baptized individuals leave the jw religion.
"did it ever occur to you, old friend, that maybe they know something that you don't know and have valid reasons for leaving?
", i asked.. his response set me back for an answer.
Yep have experienced similar bonsaisan. They simply cannot bear the thought that intelligible people arrive at the conclusion that it is not 'the troof'.
my friends,.
what has become now a yearly tradition for me: getting the videos/photos of the flag in chile for their national holidays.. this is the 2016 version, i believe the clearest example yet:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b94j3lmqx_w&feature=youtu.be.
Watchtower is breaking its own rules on this matter in order to save money. In their own literature flags are referred to as 'objects of veneration'. Objects of veneration are idols. Also in their own literature it isn't simply the veneration of idols that is condemned but the very possession of an idol that is condemned. The following is a quote from g 8/08 pp20-21
Religious icons and idols are representations, or symbols, of anything that serves as an object of devotion or veneration. They include crosses, statues, pictures, or any other likeness of things in heaven or on the earth.* Flags can also be objects of veneration.
The use of such objects in worship goes back thousands of years. Hence, in 1513 B.C.E., when giving the fledgling nation of Israel the Ten Commandments, God clearly stated his view of religious images. He said: “You must not make for yourself a carved image or a form like anything that is in the heavens above or that is on the earth underneath or that is in the waters under the earth. You must not bow down to them nor be induced to serve them, because I Jehovah your God am a God exacting exclusive devotion.”—Exodus 20:4, 5.
Note God’s twofold prohibition: First, his people were not to make images for worship, and second, they were not to “bow down to them” or serve them.
i feel so stuck.
i am married to a wonderful man.
i have been married for almost a decade and adore my husband.
Hello Cindy. My wife was in your situation 7or 8 years ago. She didn't feel Jehovah was real to her, the meetings made her feel bad about herself and she hated being different to people in general. I was the opposite at the time, giving public talks, zealous, utterly indoctrinated. I knew she was 'weak' in 'the truth' but was still shocked when she stopped attending. I didn't realise at the time just how brave she was; despite all the pressure, to leave the organisation. It hurt me at first but I did accept the situation after some time passed. In conversation she at no point attacked the organization and was not confrontational over doctrine. If you do investigate some of the shocking scandals on jwfacts that watchtower has been involved in don't share them with him. Allow time to pass, so he can accept his new circumstances, before thinking of sharing such information. I would be careful about discussing your doubts in too much depth too, depending on what doubts you have. But sometimes doubts can be deemed 'apostate talk' and discussing them with your husband and the elders when they come around, may make things more difficult. My point is there are less controversial ways of leaving the organization, that won't raise eyebrows or suspicions so much. It sounds like you love your husband, he sounds like a great guy. I wish you the very best!
don't read or post here very often anymore.
have moved on from all things jw from my former life it seems.. just an announcement to whomever it may concern that melita jaracz, surviving wife of form governing body member theodore jaracz, has finished her earthy course passing away yesterday.. simon, i don't know if you're still involved, but this site was invaluable to me when i was leaving the org.
some years back.. thank you and all the others who have me guidance that i needed at the time.
Hirotakasan hajimimashite yoroshiku! I saw the Jaracz couple while in Yokohama in 2003 or 2004. Theodore will be remember in the UK for his infamous appearance on the BBC panorama program in 2001 entitled 'suffer the children' as I remember.
Its nice to meet you I sent you a pm BTW.
the work of john lennon best fit my situation.
first, i found out.
i found out.
'I've got to break free! I've got to break free from this crazy cult psychologggeeeee'
